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nixon, would you like to comment on that statement? >> i have no comment. >> the sweat pooling onyxen's chin while kennedy is over there cold chillin'. was the presidential race decided right there because of heavy perspiration on the vice presidential mug? can you see who won the first televised presidential debate with the sound off or is that an oversimplification of a slew of factor sfls do campaigns matter or does the man with the best platform for that moment in history actually win? our next guest studied the last six decades of campaignsin exploring thorg. how campaigns do and do not matter. christopher, how are you? >> great. >> i'm of the school that campaigns do matter. that you have to present your ideas and present your candidate in an effective way that coke is not better than pepsi they market it and distribute it better and hence that's a metaphor for what we're doing here in the presidential campaign. do you think that campaigns matter in the way that we present people makes a difference? do we ever see somebody who ru
nixon, would you like to comment on that statement? >> i have no comment. >> the sweat pooling onyxen's chin while kennedy is over there cold chillin'. was the presidential race decided right there because of heavy perspiration on the vice presidential mug? can you see who won the first televised presidential debate with the sound off or is that an oversimplification of a slew of factor sfls do campaigns matter or does the man with the best platform for that moment in history...
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nixon's not going to get his makeup on until jack kennedy says. i said, it looks like a mexican standoff. that's how it happened. when he got kennedy alone in his green room, wilson put makeup on him. nixon's guy ran down and got a product known as lazy shave, known as beard stick. he called frank stanton head of cbs news into the control room to see the stark disappearance of the candidates. he called ted rogers and said he was satisfied the way nixon looked. that's not the way the rest of the country saw it, when nixon started sweating through that beard stick. the next venue was nbc studios where we produce "hardball." wilson arrived with the kennedy brothers to figure out something was up. someone set the temperature to freezing. felt like a meat locker. jack said, what the hell is this? wilson remembers racing down to the basement looking for the air conditioning unit. there was a guy standing there that ted rogers put there for nixon and he said, don't let anybody change this pip said, get out of the way or i'm going to call the police. he i
nixon's not going to get his makeup on until jack kennedy says. i said, it looks like a mexican standoff. that's how it happened. when he got kennedy alone in his green room, wilson put makeup on him. nixon's guy ran down and got a product known as lazy shave, known as beard stick. he called frank stanton head of cbs news into the control room to see the stark disappearance of the candidates. he called ted rogers and said he was satisfied the way nixon looked. that's not the way the rest of the...
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kennedy was able to not only match nixon but exceed him. people began to think of him as a possible president. >> are debates necessary for the democratic process? have the best debaters proven to be then the best presidents? >> they have in one sense. and that is one of the most important things you want from a president is someone who if he has to make a tough decision can go to americans and say, this may be unpopular with you but let me try to explain it, explain why it's the right thing to do. if a president doesn't have that he's not going to serve very well and the debates are a test of that. >> what about as we look ahead to wednesday night with mitt romney trailing in the polls, the fact that he is sharing the stage with the president of the united states, does this offer a first-time candidate, not first time but in his case but someone who gets all the way to the end there, does it offer that person the credibility and potential bump in the polls just for having shown up and being there at the debate? >> absolutely. because you'l
kennedy was able to not only match nixon but exceed him. people began to think of him as a possible president. >> are debates necessary for the democratic process? have the best debaters proven to be then the best presidents? >> they have in one sense. and that is one of the most important things you want from a president is someone who if he has to make a tough decision can go to americans and say, this may be unpopular with you but let me try to explain it, explain why it's the...
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let me talk about the situation with richard nixon in 1969. when the break-in occurred in 1972 he was accused of not telling the truth about what he learned when his campaign broke in and put a bug on the phone of the democratic national chairman. that is the issue which he was impeached. what has happened the truth has not been told to the american people about what happened in libya and murder of an american ambassador. cbs had the lead last night. take a look at the front page of "new york times" talked about f.b.i. agents into benghazi. you have a horrendous scandal and cover-up unfolding right now. >> it's inexplicable to me as i said yesterday in watergate it was a scandal but nobody died. we have a dead ambassador and three other brave americans who lost their lives. i think the american people deserve an answer. yet we're talking about why mitt romney's campaign is struggling whether it is or isn't. it seems like, is there in your mind an unprecedented level of attempt to influence the selection for barack obama? >> i have never seen t
let me talk about the situation with richard nixon in 1969. when the break-in occurred in 1972 he was accused of not telling the truth about what he learned when his campaign broke in and put a bug on the phone of the democratic national chairman. that is the issue which he was impeached. what has happened the truth has not been told to the american people about what happened in libya and murder of an american ambassador. cbs had the lead last night. take a look at the front page of "new...
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. >> richard nixon probably ruined the taping thing for a lot of people. >> he did. >> it was a fantastic collection -- a fantastic archive, it comes with its own audio cd which is great so that you can listen to this stuff over and over again. i can't underscore how fascinating this is moments in history. congratulations on that. >> thank you so much. >> thanks for joining us. the book is "listening in the secret white house recordings of jfk. "coming up, all in, akin lightning rod missouri congressman todd akin isn't backing away from his challenge to senator claire mcskas kill and some key republicans are getting back on the akin bandwagon. chris christie is not one of them. >> over the course of the week we're seeing more prominent republicans senator demint, tom coburn, lindsey graham coming out in support of todd akin. do you think he should have the support of the republican party? >> into no. >> in. >> >>. >> no. >> no, i don't. >> the fallout from the latest akin push next in what now. [ female announcer ] need help keeping your digestive balance? try the #1 gastroenterologist re
. >> richard nixon probably ruined the taping thing for a lot of people. >> he did. >> it was a fantastic collection -- a fantastic archive, it comes with its own audio cd which is great so that you can listen to this stuff over and over again. i can't underscore how fascinating this is moments in history. congratulations on that. >> thank you so much. >> thanks for joining us. the book is "listening in the secret white house recordings of jfk. "coming...
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. >> and there, there's nixon with the flop sweat. george h.w. bush looking at his watch. appearances count, don't they? >> they really do. and a professional knows that. george h.w. bush in that debate, that third one in richmond in 1992, he was looking at his watch because he was trying to make the point that one of the other candidates had run over time. it didn't really compute this was sending the message that he was impatient, just the kind of message he didn't want to send. >> humor can be an effective tool, diffuse a weakness. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> and at that moment, a lot of people said well, there's the ball game. including his opponent. >> including walter mondale. >> what do you think about humor as a tool in this debate tonight? >> you'd better be a very accomplished actor like reagan or else it probably won't work. in that case, reagan said certain things that might have given rise to further worry he was too old to serve a second term. got t
. >> and there, there's nixon with the flop sweat. george h.w. bush looking at his watch. appearances count, don't they? >> they really do. and a professional knows that. george h.w. bush in that debate, that third one in richmond in 1992, he was looking at his watch because he was trying to make the point that one of the other candidates had run over time. it didn't really compute this was sending the message that he was impatient, just the kind of message he didn't want to send....
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to richard nixon when watergate was going on. there were coverups, there was misstatements, you know, lies that came out then. that cost him his presidency and in many ways, the respectful place in history. bill clinton got impeached because he lied about the things to a grand jury and covered them out and trotted his own members of miss his cabinet to defend him. and is there something going on here and if so, why? >> i think there's no doubt why. let me talk about the situation getting a little feedback in the ear piece, but talk about the situation back there with richard nixon in 1969. you know, when at that break-in occurred in 1972, what was richard nixon accused of? he was accused of not telling the truth about when he learned about when his campaign broke in and put a bug on the phone of the democr democratic national chairman, that's the issue over withhich e was i am preached and what happened now, the truth about the murder of an ambassador. and take a look at the story yesterday morning, we couldn't get the fbi agents
to richard nixon when watergate was going on. there were coverups, there was misstatements, you know, lies that came out then. that cost him his presidency and in many ways, the respectful place in history. bill clinton got impeached because he lied about the things to a grand jury and covered them out and trotted his own members of miss his cabinet to defend him. and is there something going on here and if so, why? >> i think there's no doubt why. let me talk about the situation getting...
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it's richard nixon. in 1973 he appointed henry kissinger secretary of state, the first jewish person to hold that post and serve as secretary of state andsimultaneously. if you've got a good trivia suggestion, i'm us. we'll atone for not using it if we don't. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] at&t. the nation's largest 4g network. now covering 3000 more 4g cities and towns than verizon. at&t. rethink possible. now covering 3000 more 4g cities and towns than verizon. sleep train's inveis ending soon. sale save 10%, 20%, even 35% on a huge selection of simmons and sealy clearance mattresses. get 2 years interest-free financing on tempur-pedic. even get free delivery! sleep train stacks the savings high to keep the prices low. but hurry, the inventory clearance sale is ending soon. superior service, best selection, lowest price, guaranteed. ♪ sleep train ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ >>> this is a guy i know who cares. he cares 100%. you don't like him being misinterprete
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>> well, you know, it took richard nixon a long time to come out of hiding. and i'm not sure that he ever came back and spoke at a convention. >> paul glastris, author of "elephant in the room," thank you so much for your time today. it sounds like a fascinating read. full disclosure here, i have only started it. they keep me pretty busy here, paul. hope to get around to the whole thing. >> hope you enjoy it. >> coming up, what beer you drink has to say about your politics. all of a sudden, the folks here on the floor have all perked up. >>> a little bit later, accusations politics in missouri have become unladylike. this is msnbc. [ male announcer ] let's say you need to take care of legal matters. wouldn't it be nice if there was an easier, less-expensive option than using a traditional lawyer? well, legalzoom came up with a better way. we took the best of the old and combined it with modern technology. together you get quality services on your terms, with total customer support. legalzoom documents have been accepted in all 50 states, and they're backed by
>> well, you know, it took richard nixon a long time to come out of hiding. and i'm not sure that he ever came back and spoke at a convention. >> paul glastris, author of "elephant in the room," thank you so much for your time today. it sounds like a fascinating read. full disclosure here, i have only started it. they keep me pretty busy here, paul. hope to get around to the whole thing. >> hope you enjoy it. >> coming up, what beer you drink has to say about...
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in 1960 this is exactly what richard nixon said in his debate with jack kennedy. i share jack kennedy's mission. i share his concerns. we have the same goals. people at home are cringing, why am i giving him money, why am i voting for a guy who has the same goals as another guy. cynthia, you will probably not remember the nixon/kennedy debates, but you don't say the other guy is a good, compassionate guy and he cares about people. i do, too! that's what he's saying. i'm just like him. if you believe he's compassionate, i am too! he's selling obama. >> you say that if you don't have anything else to say, chris. another thing the bloomberg poll shows is that voters -- more voters believe that barack obama has a concrete plan for helping the middle class than believe that mitt romney has such a plan. that's another problem mitt romney has. he had expected that the economy would win the election for him. all he would have to do is go to people and say, i'm not barack obama. i can do a better job. in fact, he needed to do a lot more. obama has laid out specific proposa
in 1960 this is exactly what richard nixon said in his debate with jack kennedy. i share jack kennedy's mission. i share his concerns. we have the same goals. people at home are cringing, why am i giving him money, why am i voting for a guy who has the same goals as another guy. cynthia, you will probably not remember the nixon/kennedy debates, but you don't say the other guy is a good, compassionate guy and he cares about people. i do, too! that's what he's saying. i'm just like him. if you...
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nixon discovered that in '68 he made crime a national issue. the funny thing about nixon, he deserves credit on the ground how he dealt with adikts. he dealt with a drug problem in a way where two-thirds of his drug budget were spent on treatment, only a third on interdiction and law enforcement. he knew personally and practically from experience that treatment was the way to go yet he also knew on the campaign trail that doesn't sell. i will protect from you the evil ers do down the block, i will protect you from this scourge in american life that got him like theed in a landslide in '72, now politics have followed suit ever since, reagan, clinton, both parties agree on one thing, saying you are not tough on crime has been political suicide. i believe it is changing but it has been till now political suicide. >> well, you were just telling us as you sat down, you got back from an incredible trip to oklahoma. tell us what you were doing there. >> i met incredible people in oklahoma. it is a state with one of the toughest prison systems in the c
nixon discovered that in '68 he made crime a national issue. the funny thing about nixon, he deserves credit on the ground how he dealt with adikts. he dealt with a drug problem in a way where two-thirds of his drug budget were spent on treatment, only a third on interdiction and law enforcement. he knew personally and practically from experience that treatment was the way to go yet he also knew on the campaign trail that doesn't sell. i will protect from you the evil ers do down the block, i...
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i mean, look, nixon, reagan, george w. bush, republican presidents have learned how to get stuff done at times in the face of congress and sometimes controlled by the other party. you know, this whole notion of the imperial presidency that arose under nixon, not coincidentally, a republican, i think you said it was kind of a tori sensibility. but it's really a concentration of power. >> are they stronger than the democrats and they know what that is? assembly, parliamentary? >> in some ways they have been more skillful and more ruthless in the way that they have moved the levers of power. in washington and outside of washington, to get stuff done. >> joy, i don't think the republicans have a karl rove a. malignant sense of power, i'm going to be the architect and i'm going to rule and they are spreading the money around and trying to get back the power. it does seem almost obsessive, the love of the white house. >> i think eugene robinson is right. for conservatives, the idea of being the cowboy, they like the self-image f
i mean, look, nixon, reagan, george w. bush, republican presidents have learned how to get stuff done at times in the face of congress and sometimes controlled by the other party. you know, this whole notion of the imperial presidency that arose under nixon, not coincidentally, a republican, i think you said it was kind of a tori sensibility. but it's really a concentration of power. >> are they stronger than the democrats and they know what that is? assembly, parliamentary? >> in...
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vacuum in history so if so why now because we do have people to compare this to for example richard nixon and watergate so why now i mean little watergate was chump change compared to the stuff i think about it you know nixon gets taken out of office along about watergate how about this one lauren how about starting a war in iraq because the guy had weapons of mass destructions and top of that it. and it just keeps going on take the front what is you know it wasn't always like this and people think it was i was it would when you go back to the great depression you know the bankers were also responsible for putting was in place to give the people confidence in the banks such as glass steagall it didn't happen on its own and now what did they do are you going to compare the people back then to the people now you know you mentioned you mentioned kennedy and ironically you know when you just had my assistant run over and get this this is a photograph of me and john connolly. in front of the book depository with his wife nellie and connally was the guy that took a bullet in the back sitting in
vacuum in history so if so why now because we do have people to compare this to for example richard nixon and watergate so why now i mean little watergate was chump change compared to the stuff i think about it you know nixon gets taken out of office along about watergate how about this one lauren how about starting a war in iraq because the guy had weapons of mass destructions and top of that it. and it just keeps going on take the front what is you know it wasn't always like this and people...
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>> this is another request from president nixon who started this stuff when he went on the old show called laugh-in and spoke the immortal words -- sock it to me. there is a freeze frame on internet that shows president and mrs. obama all smily but when elizabeth hasselbeck starts to ask a question the president's face gets very grim, and michelle obama's fay is like this. >> rick: you were watching very closely. [ laughter ] >> rick: word on friday that the president did have a conversation late in the week with the prime minister, the media has covered the apparent approximate between the two world leaders, what do you think? >> this is longest running soap opera versus obama. bb versus obama. he had to do something to make the damage less damaging. he did not 6 the 13 bilaterals he had the last time he was in new york. obama didn't have any. media is saying that is perfectly okay because the salesman running for office. that is explanation but to accept that on its face is i think a bit not right. >> rick: world leaders speak their minds and how the media reacts. >> as president of our
>> this is another request from president nixon who started this stuff when he went on the old show called laugh-in and spoke the immortal words -- sock it to me. there is a freeze frame on internet that shows president and mrs. obama all smily but when elizabeth hasselbeck starts to ask a question the president's face gets very grim, and michelle obama's fay is like this. >> rick: you were watching very closely. [ laughter ] >> rick: word on friday that the president did have...
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. >> richard nixon tried it and richard nixon got blown away. anyway, the president seeped to have regained a bit of a his fighting spirit today. good for him. here he was at a campaign event right there in denver. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. but it couldn't have been mitt romney because the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts to favor the wealthy. the fellow on stage said last night he didn't know anything about that. governor romney may dance around his positions, but if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth. >> the trouble is 58 million people were just told by niel n nielsen, 58 million, the preliminary estimate watched last night, that was an audience we'll probably never see again, and he now -- >> and probably 2 million, chris, 2 million will see what he said today. can you imagine if he had said on stage last night and said, hey, who is this fellow i'm debating? it can't be mitt r
. >> richard nixon tried it and richard nixon got blown away. anyway, the president seeped to have regained a bit of a his fighting spirit today. good for him. here he was at a campaign event right there in denver. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. but it couldn't have been mitt romney because the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts to favor the wealthy....
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>> when the first presidential debate started with kennedy-nixon 50 years ago, over 60% of television were watching the debate. now it's down to a quarter to 30% of television but that is still a lot of people because some of the people who haven't made up their minds minds they are going to base their decision on the debates. this is about as much attention they are going to pay to the race. it's not the size of the audience, it's in who is in the audience. >> jamie: this is superbowl, this is going to be our olympics fox, we'll have wall to wall coverage. thanks for your thoughts today. >> as they prepare for the debates this coming weeks. vice presidential candidates are out on the trail. biden and paul ryan stumping in critical battleground states. chris wallace sat down for an exclusive one-on-one interview with congressman ryan. what he has to say about u.s. policies in the middle east, iran and the economy. >> jamie: plus we know that peanut allergies can be fatal in some cases, they can really make you sick. they are especially dangerous for children with peanut allergies. ala
>> when the first presidential debate started with kennedy-nixon 50 years ago, over 60% of television were watching the debate. now it's down to a quarter to 30% of television but that is still a lot of people because some of the people who haven't made up their minds minds they are going to base their decision on the debates. this is about as much attention they are going to pay to the race. it's not the size of the audience, it's in who is in the audience. >> jamie: this is...
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they have since the 1960 kennedy/nixon debate. it became a televised event. richard nixon won if you listened on radio, but if you saw the body language on tv, it was kennedy who won. there was a period of time there were no presidential debates. 1964, '68, '72, none. but back in 1976 these debates came on again. they can be game changers. 1980, ronald reagan was where romney was, behind in the polls. reagan came on and took on an incumbent president, jim cia why ther, performed well in the debates and the rest is history. it started him on his way to a landslide victory in 1980. >> do you think debates actually help voters decide which person to back if they're on the fence as to which direction to go? >> i think they make a difference, particularly for mitt romney. look, barack obama, whether you love him or dislike him, think he's a great leader or think he's failed, we kind of know what he's going to be like as president. we've had him for 3 1/2 years. mitt romney is still an open book. people have to say, do i want to live with this guy every day? is he
they have since the 1960 kennedy/nixon debate. it became a televised event. richard nixon won if you listened on radio, but if you saw the body language on tv, it was kennedy who won. there was a period of time there were no presidential debates. 1964, '68, '72, none. but back in 1976 these debates came on again. they can be game changers. 1980, ronald reagan was where romney was, behind in the polls. reagan came on and took on an incumbent president, jim cia why ther, performed well in the...
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to something a number of republican candidates have done over -- going all the way back to richard nixon. that is, use code words, code issues, and try to use trade as a lever. it's obviously not working in ohio where his support is going down. one thing that i have to say for them at this point is the low expectations going into the debate actually help them. because i think the press would kind of like to give them another run or another chance to go around the track. so if he does decently in the debate, he'll get that chance but i agree with krystal. he would have to win that debate. >> in a way that he's not capable of, frankly. >> is he too elitist that he just can't connect? >> frankly, he he doesn't have the goods. this is not like he's a new candidate. he's been running for president for six years. he's had ample opportunity to connect with people, to introduce himself, and he's failed to do it for these six years. i don't see how these debates are going to make a difference. >> bob shrum, krystal ball, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >>> coming up, when republica
to something a number of republican candidates have done over -- going all the way back to richard nixon. that is, use code words, code issues, and try to use trade as a lever. it's obviously not working in ohio where his support is going down. one thing that i have to say for them at this point is the low expectations going into the debate actually help them. because i think the press would kind of like to give them another run or another chance to go around the track. so if he does decently...
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kennedy/nixon was the game changer in debate history. people that listened to it thought nixon won on radio but on television, john f. kennedy won. nobody was that happy with the debates. we had no debates in '64 '68 '72. came back in 1976 when jimmy carter ended up doing well because of gerald ford's famous gaffe. that's the big question. can you become gaffe-free? everybody is going to be looking wednesday night to see if there was a mistake made by either person. it puts a lot of pressure on the candidates. >> jennifer: you mention nixon and kennedy and those who saw the debate felt like kennedy won. what do you think is more important? what the candidates say or how they say it? >> i think it's how they say it. to be honest with you talk about the kennedy/nixon debates we all had visuals. what was the difference between kennedy and nixon? a little bit of a difference on cuba policy. little bit on how to win the cold war. but none of us remember what we remember is the visual of john f. kennedy looking dashing and handsome and nixon n
kennedy/nixon was the game changer in debate history. people that listened to it thought nixon won on radio but on television, john f. kennedy won. nobody was that happy with the debates. we had no debates in '64 '68 '72. came back in 1976 when jimmy carter ended up doing well because of gerald ford's famous gaffe. that's the big question. can you become gaffe-free? everybody is going to be looking wednesday night to see if there was a mistake made by either person. it puts a lot of pressure on...
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president eisenhower didn't do that, president nixon didn't do that, president reagan made us feel like we were all in it together. >> i've never seen a politician say, i'll take the other part of the vote. i'm not interested in your half, or in this case, 70% he's giving away. >> that's right. i have never heard such language. i think it will allow obama to extend the 47% argument to not only ryan but to the entire republican party. he can say, this is a party that slices and dices the american public. in some ways i think this argument about 30% of the people being lazy, 47% of the people being lazy, goes against the idea of american exceptionalism. how can america be that exceptional if 50% of the country is lazy? we know that's not true. america is an exceptional country. you'll see both romney and ryan struggle with this and have something to answer to tonight on stage and then when ryan takes the stage ultimately next week. but i do think ryan and biden do have something that neither of the principles have. that is, they speak from their gut. they speak from their hearts. and i th
president eisenhower didn't do that, president nixon didn't do that, president reagan made us feel like we were all in it together. >> i've never seen a politician say, i'll take the other part of the vote. i'm not interested in your half, or in this case, 70% he's giving away. >> that's right. i have never heard such language. i think it will allow obama to extend the 47% argument to not only ryan but to the entire republican party. he can say, this is a party that slices and dices...
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he's got, and then, again, look at how all of the debates were won and lost all the way going back to nixon and kennedy. often, it was a really good one liner that summedded up someone or it was a good rebuttal, and often, it was a gaffe. neil: do you think they change the outcome, though? i mean, if you look back at 1980, you could argue the momentum was beginning to go in ronald reagan's favor. you can argue in 1960, though the race was tight, people were open to a challenger. you're smarter than i'll ever be, pat, but does it change the outcome or confirm a trend? >> i think the 1980 debate did not change the outcome, but i think it -- reagan won. he was moving ahead. i think that's why carter wanted to debate, but that gave him a 10-point victory. i think that the
he's got, and then, again, look at how all of the debates were won and lost all the way going back to nixon and kennedy. often, it was a really good one liner that summedded up someone or it was a good rebuttal, and often, it was a gaffe. neil: do you think they change the outcome, though? i mean, if you look back at 1980, you could argue the momentum was beginning to go in ronald reagan's favor. you can argue in 1960, though the race was tight, people were open to a challenger. you're smarter...
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that ted rogers put there for nixon and he said, don't let anybody change this. i said, get out of the way or i'm going to call the police. he immediately left and i changed the air conditioning back to normal. wilson understand the game and how it was going to be played. the candidates had their jobs to do, so did their handlers. he said his opponent, he said, he wanted to keep his job because of the screw-up that happened in the first debate. this is what goes on in politics. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. >>> tomorrow i'll be in denver. we'll have live editions of "hardball" at 5:00 and 7:00 eastern. and complete coverage of the debate with my msnbc colleagues at 8:00. "the ed show" starts right now. >>> good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show." 25 hours before the first presidential debate and 35 days until the 2012 election. mitt romney and paul ryan are scrambling. robert gibbs is here tonight to respond. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> you can use your charitable deduction or home mortgage deduction and can fill
that ted rogers put there for nixon and he said, don't let anybody change this. i said, get out of the way or i'm going to call the police. he immediately left and i changed the air conditioning back to normal. wilson understand the game and how it was going to be played. the candidates had their jobs to do, so did their handlers. he said his opponent, he said, he wanted to keep his job because of the screw-up that happened in the first debate. this is what goes on in politics. that's...
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. >> nixon plays golf. >> i don't want to whine and complain, if i was romney in the first ten minutes, i would have -- bam. >> they get you here right here. >> is he a good dancer? >> he's gotten to be a better dancer. >> you really put your foot down. >> stop it. this is hard. you want to try it? get in the ring. >> oh my? was i a little strong? >> when you go after my man -- >> everyone is giving me high fives. >> do you think this would be going better if he had nominated someone else? >> and what's burning down here? >> if you don't man up you got to shut up. >> this is a guy that cares for the 100%. >> we use fairly right now so people don't get tired of her. >> let's get right to our panel now. we're joined by goldie taylor managing editor of the goldie taylor project, jimy williams and julian epstein. julian, if i might begin with you. we saw ann romney last night on with jay leno. she wondered if she had come off a little strong last week when she chastised all of us when we didn't realize how lucky we are for having her husband run for president. what did you think of the mor
. >> nixon plays golf. >> i don't want to whine and complain, if i was romney in the first ten minutes, i would have -- bam. >> they get you here right here. >> is he a good dancer? >> he's gotten to be a better dancer. >> you really put your foot down. >> stop it. this is hard. you want to try it? get in the ring. >> oh my? was i a little strong? >> when you go after my man -- >> everyone is giving me high fives. >> do you think...
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lou: joining us now katie microlending holding the post under nixon ford and reagan. start with "the washington post" getting the next round of sensitive documents lying on the floor in the consulate of benghazi this is outrageous. >> three weeks later we cannot send in the fbi it is too dangerous but the reporters are picking up sensitive documents talking about the people in libya. three weeks later. lou: not securing a because we have no personnel i know people in the fbi and i have the highest respect one of my oldest friends is there. the idea they make them look like in the tent and even want to continue the description to make them look horrible. >> it was either a massive intelligence failure to not know the was a security threat to and if not then a massive security failure to not protect them. either way it is now a cover up. remember the youtube movie? they said the intelligence community said it was there fault. lou: one of the where does things i have never seen comes out with the statement on a friday and has not appeared in public he could be in a river
lou: joining us now katie microlending holding the post under nixon ford and reagan. start with "the washington post" getting the next round of sensitive documents lying on the floor in the consulate of benghazi this is outrageous. >> three weeks later we cannot send in the fbi it is too dangerous but the reporters are picking up sensitive documents talking about the people in libya. three weeks later. lou: not securing a because we have no personnel i know people in the fbi and...
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dick nixon to be on any particular day. he wants the support of the tea party crowd. he needs them, john and mark, but he would never be a tea party person. he wouldn't show up at a yahoo kind of politics we don't like government. he's not been a life long foreign policy hawk, but he wants the support of the neocon community out there. he wants people who are hawkish. he's not a member of the religious right. he doesn't run around liberty university or hang around with jerry falwell, but he wants their support. he's not really a ryan republican ideologue conviction politician, but he put him on the ticket. isn't that the fundamental problem with the guy? he wants to date these people through the election. he wants their support, but he doesn't want to be one of them. he doesn't want to marry them. is that true? >> yes. look, chris, i think he's a person who is fundamentally ill suited to being the republican nominee given what the republican party currently is. and you could say that on a bunch of different levels. it's an
dick nixon to be on any particular day. he wants the support of the tea party crowd. he needs them, john and mark, but he would never be a tea party person. he wouldn't show up at a yahoo kind of politics we don't like government. he's not been a life long foreign policy hawk, but he wants the support of the neocon community out there. he wants people who are hawkish. he's not a member of the religious right. he doesn't run around liberty university or hang around with jerry falwell, but he...
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>> well, the kennedy-nixon debates created so much attention in 1960. many people think that's why ted kennedy won. if you recall ford made famously the gap that -- and then certainly by 1980, ronald reagan was very behind in the polls was just able to tidal wave over jimmy carter with quips like there you go again in a sort of staged format. since 1980, they have become part of the american landscape. >> the "new york times" recently wrote about this debate prep and the president of the united states is an awesome figure merely to share the platform with him on equal terms is the gain in stature, good performance will be gauged even better. why would any president agree to participate in an event that ultimately -- the -- because it's become now a demand, president obama suddenly bailed on debates. then, you know, he would be seeming like a poor sport. and also these debates are agreed upon long before the fall season, they're everything from the podium to the lighting, everything is worked out between the parties. >> do you think the presidential deba
>> well, the kennedy-nixon debates created so much attention in 1960. many people think that's why ted kennedy won. if you recall ford made famously the gap that -- and then certainly by 1980, ronald reagan was very behind in the polls was just able to tidal wave over jimmy carter with quips like there you go again in a sort of staged format. since 1980, they have become part of the american landscape. >> the "new york times" recently wrote about this debate prep and the...
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and nixon's image as a loser was driven home by questions like this. >> president eisenhower's asked to give one example of a major idea of yours that he adopted. his reply was, and i'm quoting, if you give me a week, i might think of one, i don't remember. >> i would suggest that if you know the president, that was probably a facetious remark. president president has asked for my advice. i have given it. sometimes my advice has been taken. sometimes it has not. chris: the second time a debate turned things around was ronald reagan's direct appeal to voters in his first and only faceoff with president jimmy carter. >> are you better off than you were four years ago? is it easier for you to go and buy things in the stores than it was four years ago? do you feel that our security is as safe? that we're as strong as we were four years ago? chris: after that, the next day's "new york times" told the story of how critical that became. the are you better off question took hold. the third time a debate turned the race around was this first debate between vice president al gore and george w.
and nixon's image as a loser was driven home by questions like this. >> president eisenhower's asked to give one example of a major idea of yours that he adopted. his reply was, and i'm quoting, if you give me a week, i might think of one, i don't remember. >> i would suggest that if you know the president, that was probably a facetious remark. president president has asked for my advice. i have given it. sometimes my advice has been taken. sometimes it has not. chris: the second...